Hey - yeah me! I'm going on February 11th and I cannot wait....
Its the first trip I've done like this (and I'm coming on my own...!) so any advice anyone has on the best way to deal with altitude sickness would be good (I think thats the one thing I'm a little nervous about...) but I'm really looking forward to it.
Are you travelling from London?
So glad to hear from you, was getting worried there !! I've done loads of trips like Machu Pichu but I've never sufferd from altitude sickness, so fingers crossed !! this is the first time I've done a trip alone too, kinda nervous about it, I live in Dublin but I'm travelling from London, where are you from?
Hey just been into the Exodus office got my Kit bag !! is it big enough ? lol not sure, I;m not going hiking till next weekend, I just hope my new boots will be broken in enough. I've also been going tru the rather gorgeous thermal section myself lately !!
I found out the profile of the group today .. 16 of us going, 25- 61 years old !! yep 61 !! so I feel alot better about my fitness, saying that Madonna is 52 !! lol there are also a 53, 54 & a 56 year old !! the rest are in our thirties, we have 1 couple & 3 lads going together, the rest of us are all solo travellers, wehich is cool !! I'm the only one from Ireland so we'll definitely have to meet up in Heathrow, can't wait, how much training are you doing ?
I rather think my age exceeds the combined ages of you two!! Suffice to say i was avolunteer teacher in Nepal before I think you were born! Unbelievable wonderful country and people.Temples are fantastic amazing mix of Hindu and Buddhist cultures.very complex ethnic and cultural mix of peoples,castes and tribes.Friends tell me still much real grinding poverty.
Will be avery strange experience for me to go back.Hope you 30yr olds dont have to carry me1
look forward to seeing you at Heathrow.
Nice to hear from you.
I'm sure you'll probably be able to run rings round me - age doesn't come into it! Its only a number!(Although if worst comes to the worst, at least we might be able to find some Yaks to carry us up)
Nepal sounds like an amazing place - a number of friends have been over the years and they all tell me it'll be the most fantastic experience, and will stay with me for a long time.
So are you guys all ready? 3 weeks tomorrow - it seems to have come around so fast since I booked it last September!
Rhodell, are you off hiking this weekend? Have fun if you are!
See you at Heathrow.
Yes i was certainly there before you both were born!! nepal will blow your minds away- a culture which paradoxically is both older than ours,artistically culturally and spiritually very sophisticated yet caste ridden rigid and so traditional. will try not to bore you with stories of life in nepal in the last century!!
by the way the cold is quite bearable as the atmosphere is so dry and the air so clear. best time of year now .summer monsoon season is not nice at all-lovely flowers ,but mosquitoes,rat snakes and leeches eveywhere! January/february are perfect.
Hi Kate, Yes off tomorrow, I'll finally find out how ready I really am !! Looking forward to it though, How did you get on ?
Bryn I'm concerned about how cold it really will be, just hoping everything I'm bringing is warm enough, layering is the best I hear ? I don't mind snakes but the leeches ..mmm LOL
I was reading some blogs about Malaria tablets & people saying we don't need them.. do you think we do ?
Thanks for the advice about the cold - thats the only thing I was a bit unsure about. This is my very first 'trek' abroad and I just have no idea how cold it could get whilst walking - but I agree that during the day the problem is probably going to be the sweating on the climbs and its more when we stop.
So...are either of you taking a down jacket? I'm obviously taking loads of layers (a nice toasty warm merino baselayer) and then I have a number of t-shirts/fleeces, very warm hoodie/fleece for on evening - and I then have my decent Berghaus waterproof jacket which has an attached really thick fleece underneath. I can honestly say after a couple of hours walk in this countryside at a tempature of around 6/7 degrees, I'm roasting in it(!) and I think I'll be okay...but anyway, I just wanted to check if you guys were taking a down jacket as it gives me an idea as to whether or not I'm taking the right stuff. I am rubbish at making decisions about what to take....
Anyway, your advice would be appreciated!
Hi Kate Im not taking a down jacket-like you a waterproof with fleece.Does sound as if youve got more than enough to keep warm. Bit primitive I know but Im sure everyone will be prepared to share anyway.i shall take several pairs of gloves and 2 hats because I can lose things very rapidly.
LOL i think so too, was gonna bringing some for night time so I'll double up !!!
Glad you had a good weekend out hiking up mountains this weekend Rhodell. I'm off out this weekend, although as much as it is beautiful, I think I'll probably only get to walk up a hill or two in the Kent countryside (now...if I was up North....)
Anyway, I'm taking a pair of walking trousers, but to be honest, I always get so hot walking in them and I find even them quite bulky and uncomfortable to be honest, so I'm also taking (and probably be always wearing...ooooo that'll be nice for nearly 3 weeks) a pair of RAB pants - and there're basically thick thermal leggings which can be worn as a base or mid-layer in extremely cold temperatures.
I can't believe we go two weeks on Friday. I am really, really looking forward to it, and it'll be nice to meet up at the airport!
(And I'm not really taking handbags or shoes).
Glad to hear it !! (Damn .. I'd better unpack my fake tan & hair straightners so!! Only joking !! )
Think I'm gonna stick with the same, in the trouser department ! I stocked up on Babywipes yesterday, think we'll be clinging to them for dear life after 3 weeks in the same clothes !!!
Are either of you bringing walking poles ? I wasn't going to but after the hike last week, I'm debating it ?
No I'm not taking a walking pole - I reckon unless you use one normally then maybe, but I would find it more of a hindrance than a help. Although I reckon you might even be able to buy one in Katmandu, on the day before we leave if you remain undecided?
I also stocked up on babywipes, and antibacterial handgel yesterday too! I have a load I took to the Glastonbury festival last year so I will probably be bringing an Exodus kit bag filled with that, toilet paper and water purification tablets....
Im not taking poles-im too uncoordinated to mpve feet and arms in asynchronised way!! Heard from 2 people whove been.Took cigarette lighters to burn their toilet paper!! and slept with their water bottles in sleeping bag to stop drinking water freezing overnight!! not sure if I was being wound up or not! 11 days to go......
HAHA I am going to bring an aliminium water bottle too as I heard people were using them as hot water bottles at night so it must be true !! makes sence but burning toilet paper ?? lol Guess we'll find out !! Surprised no one else has been on the forum ?
I am too taking a hot water bottle! And I'll be taking as many comfortable warm things for on a night as I can. And we shall indeed find out if the burning of toilet paper is true or not! I must admit I hadn't heard that one - if its not true however, then at least we can all sit around Bryn's lighter keeping warm on a night.
Are you both travelling with just Exodus kitbag, or are you also planning to also take a backpack?
Also, just on another note...not sure if you guys have bought water purification tablets yet - but the ones which Exodus say are essential on the trip notes (the iodine based ones and not chlorine based) were actually stopped from being sold in the UK (and Europe?) 18 months or so ago (I think).
Anyway, I've been in touch with Exodus as I bought some from Boots, and they've said that the chlorine based tablets are fine to take with us (although its like you're drinking a swimming pool!) although I've got my hands on some other tablets (from Blacks) which neutralise the chlorine taste.
I'm really looking forward to the trip-and I can't quite believe I'll be in such a beautiful place in just over a week. Exciting stuff! I am also taking tons of batteries for my camera. And I admit, it may be slightly sad (but I'm perfectly happy with that haha) however... I'm also looking forward to checking out the array of fresh teas on offer!
Oh Kate, Every time I think about it now, I feel a bit sick !! I'm so excited & nervous at the same time !! I got my watre bottle yesterday & finally made my list last night so I'll get the water tablets from Boots too, thanks for that.
I'm taking my large Backpack & a smaller backpack for day time, Just felt the Backpack would be easier to use for me. I;m only allowed 20kg on the flight to Lonodn so have to try keep the weight down. I Love my camera so your not alone there !! Just have the 2 batteries for it though, blogs say we can charge them in some of the tea houses so should be ok. Need to sort out how much money to take? not really sure? & are either of you bringing food? Everyone's saying bring Mars bars & biscuits !!
I'm definately taking a load of Mars Bars, biscuits and some Kental Mint Cake! Honestly my bag will be full of sugary treats/imodium. Oh what a combination indeed.
I'm also a little nervous too but I think thats also because its the first time I've travelled like this on my own - but I reckon there'll be a few of us in the same boat. I'm sorting out my money in the next couple of days-we do have to buy all food out there (aside from a few breakfasts we get in Katmandu). I'm sure we should be able to draw money out relatively easily in Katmandu as I don't fancy carrying a load of cash on me either, but I reckon I'll try and take enough to cover my time on the trek (say £15/£20 a day?) and I might need to get some more out for gifts the last day or so. Money just disappears though on nothing!
Do you both fancy meeting up for coffee/drink at Heathrow next Friday before we leave?
Oh definitely, I'm concerned, I'm flying with Aer Lingus at 3.30pm and they have been on strike for the past 10 days, they are operating but it seems to be a mess with delays and stuff so Ive been onto the agency to see if I should get another flight, really hope I dont have too, fingers crossed. I didn't realise we were only getting a few breakfasts !! lol More Snicker/Mars Bars for me so !!
I did this trip the same time as you last year - you will have a great time! I was also a solo traveller but don't worry about that as at the end of the day you will be with like minded people who will quickly bond together as a group.
The weather was dry and a comfortable temperature for walking in during the day. I wore unlined walking trousers with Icebreaker thermals underneath, a base-layer top and a fleece jacket and a fleece hat and was warm enough. I did take a light waterproof jacket and although I didn't use it I guess one should always be carried. I took a down jacket which I put on in the evenings although you could just as easily layer up. I wore a pair of fleece trousers for sitting around the lodges in the evenings (people do tend to go to bed quite early). It can get very cold once the sun drops and your water can freeze at night. I wore a different set of thermals to sleep in although I usually warmed up after being in my sleeping bag for a while. You can have your water bottle filled with boiled water each night - put in in your sleeping bag to warm it up then it will act as your drinking water the next morning. None of used any kind of water purification tablets or bought bottled water (v un-environmentally friendly) - we all used boiled water and had no problems. The food in the lodges was fine. We all took a decision to stay away from meat dishes the further away we got from 'civilisation' but that's up to you. Potatoes with fried cheese is great, as are omlettes and cheese, apple pie, noodles...
You should only need the Exodus kit bag plus a daysac to carry on the trail. Take plenty of wet wipes and tissues! There was no need to burn toilet paper as you take plenty of well timed breaks in tea houses along the trail (I lived on lemon tea with sugar!).
I did take one walking pole which I used but not everyone did. You can charge you camera batteries in some places. Put your camera in the bottom of your sleeping bag to keep the battery warm at night and it will last longer. It is worth taking a bandana type thing for round your neck that you can pull up over your nose if you pass a herd of yaks as the trail can be quite dusty in places. I used mine when walking around the centre of Kathmandu as the air quality is not good! As for altitude sickness, it did affect a couple of people in our group quite badly but we all made it to base camp - suprisingly it seems to affect younger, fitter males worse than anyone else although no-one can predict who can be affected. Most people can at least expect to get a headache and feel generally 'out of sorts' in the latter stages. I took Brufen and half a Diamox once above 3000m (you will get conflicting opinions on its use - I also used it on Kilimanjaro and it seems to help me but many people manage without it) when it got bad which I also gave to the two guys who were struggling. I also find it hard to sleep and have strange dreams which is also normal. Just take it easy, be positive, walk slowly (if you are breathing heavily you are going too fast), keep your fluids up and soak up the experience. The amazing scenery, culture, people and sense of achievement will more than make up for any occasional discomfort. You'll be amazed how good you feel on the way down!
Beware of the guys who try to help you with your bag as you arrive at the airport - they are not with Exodus and will expect paying once you reach the vehicle. They can be rather insistent on taking your bag so unless you are happy with paying them give them a firm no.
Hope that helps. You will have a fantastic time! Michelle
Didn't see any leeches, snakes, rats or any kind of beasties at all. I would imagine they only come out in the monsoon season.
By the way, our group went to the Monkey Temple on the outskirts of Kathmandu on the first free afternoon. Our guide arranged a minibus through the hotel. V interesting - unless you have a phobia of monkeys!
Yes, I had been to Kenya, Jordan and Kilimanjaro with Exodus before I did EBC. I'm off on the Thai-Indo China Explorer trip 12-27 Feb - the first trip that hasn't involved trekking which I'm sure I'll miss but thought I deserved a break from high altitude!
Have a great time. Michelle
!Hope everyone is getting as twitchy as me! see you at heathrow!
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