I'm booked on this trip. Is anyone else out there going?
I'm in, and very much looking forward to it !
Great to see our group coming together, and looking forward to meeting you all in person. I as well, chose this particular trip due to the time spent at base camp. Having been an avid armchair adventurer, reading every climbing book I could get my hands on love the idea of spending time at base camp. Will be a dream come true (assuming I make it !).
My vote would be for Bhutan Victoria. I've not been there, but it's certainly on my travel wish list.
Nice to see who's going. Looking forward to meeting you all. I booked this trip for the extra days at Base Camp too. Its a lifelong ambition for me as well and will be my 40th birthday during the trek. Wanted to do something special for it and decided to do this.
Training wise ive been running and bit of cycling. Ill be doing some walking in the Lakes just before i leave to try and build the hill legs up
Hello everyone, and Happy New Year! Welcome, Sarah. I just wanted to say how nice it is to see Moose's very sane response to the training question. Some previous groups' threads have become really OTT about this, in a quite offputting and competitive way - one group spent their entire thread updating one another on their Iron Man and Ultimate Warrior events, and unsurprisingly one traveller dropped out before departure, afraid they wouldn't be fit enough. As for me, I go to the gym a couple of times a week, and since September have added to that trying to get in nice long walks (20 km) on any free weekend days. I'll step that up wth some walking weekends away over the coming months. That worked for a friend of mine who trekked Annapurna - while the only friend I know who go into real trouble trekking at altitude is a wonderful gal but a complete fitness nut and hyper competitive, who I strongly suspect tried to run up the mountain and promptly got AMS! (That said, if any of you are ultra-iron-triathlete-warriors, you have my utmost respect...) Moose, lovely to hear you'll have such a major birthday - any idea where we'll be on the day itself?
thanks for the helpful tips.. I had every intention of upping my training starting jan 1st but getting over an awful tooth infection so will begin properly next week..I spoke to a friend of mine who did this trip several years ago and he said that he went to the gym three times a week and did a few hikes in south wales and he was fine..its hard to judge really as I think(might be wrong) its just as much about adjustment to altitude as it is trekking..thats the bit that worries most as I live by the sea so any height is change for me...
Good to hear about your birthday Moose..we will all have a sing song :-)
the other thing I should warn you all about is my fear of flying- it has not stopped me travelling to the other side of the world with the help of hypnotherapy and meds but have you seen luklar airport- what a challenge!!!! This trip is such a lifelong dream and challenge for me- my partner left not long ago after 8 years,leaving me with two young kids but i didnt wallow- i booked a trip :-)))) yeh....
Thanks guys. My birthday is on the 16th so according to the itinerary we will be leaving Namche that day.
As for the training question, i did High Inca Trail with Exodus about 6yrs ago and found the altitude quite hard. That said i knew very little about walking at altitude and Exodus didn't really offer any advice so i read up on it for this trip. Looking back i would have been pretty dehydrated which doesn't help. I have a family friend who is/was a Himalayan mountineer and has lot experience with Everest region. I picked his brains and i'll copy and paste what he said. This is just general advice he gave me
thanks Moose that was really helpful - really appreciated..I think i will get some poles- I have used them along while ago and did find them useful so will get a new pair.... I cant believe the time is galloping along now- bought an exercise bike so started cycling evey evening as I dont get a lot of free time to go to the gym so hopefully that will be ok...
thanks again Sarah
I am also booked on the 11 April trip and can't wait. It's been on my wishlist for many years but when Exodus started to offer an extended trip including 2 night at Base Camp I decided to go for that one.
The training is not going bad - couple of runs in my lunch hour and a long walk at the weekend plus some stair walking to get the legs used to climbing - not that I expect there will be really steep bits but can't do any harm to build up the muscles.
Sarah B I saw you asked about hiring kit from Exodus. I did the Inca Trail with them a few years ago and hired a sleeping bag. It was fine and really fit for purpose. I borrowed a silk liner from a friend to use inside it and it was great. I'm hiring one again this time and will take a silk liner again with me. At £25 it is good value and saves having to use valuable space in my luggage taking one with me.
I'm really looking forward to meeting all of you - nice to be able to meet up with some of my fellow travellers (online) before the trip.
Hi Tracey ..thanks for the info on hiring kit- i did in the end bite the bullet and buy one as I saw one in the sasales... I was trying to work out what thickness of walking trousers will be needed??? anyone any ideas?
How's it going? Saw your question re walking trousers. I am planning to take 3 pairs - one fairly thin pair which zip off to convert to shorts; another which are thicker and then another pair which have a fleece lining. I'm also taking thermals too to wear underneath for when it gets really cold.
Hard to know what will be most suitable but hopefully a variety and the thermals should see me through the warmer days and then the colder ones as we get closer to Base Camp.
I think it's meant to be fairly cold at Base Camp but not ridiculous however last year apparently it was unseasonably cold during the trek so want to cover all possibilities in case it's the same this year.
I'm rubbish at being cold!
Don't know if that is any help or not.
Hi Tracey..thanks for that - really helpful..its hard to judge what to take as we have to pack light..i too am rurubbish at being cold -Ive just bought a new Down jacket as mine was old and feathers patchy and was worried I would get cold... cant believe how quickly the time is going now...yikes..
...has arrived in the post. Does everyone else have theirs? Very exciting.... I've been reading everyone's exchanges about clothing - I'll just be bringing a motley assortment of layers, including some really snuggly underlayers. For the sleeping bag, I'm doing the same as Tracey, hiring a bag and bringing my own silk liner. Finally got some new poles a couple of weekends ago, before doing 50 miles on the South Downs Way, and was amazed at the difference they made to how my legs felt at the end of the weekend, so for anyone undecided on poles, I'd say really don't think twice about it.
And finally, is anyone going to either of Exodus's two London evening presentations next week - treks on Tues 20th and polar trips on Weds 21st? I'm hoping to get to at least one.
Hi everyone. Only 3 weeks to go now and starting to get excited. Just trying to cram in my last bit of running, cycling and swimming before we leave. Also planning to fit in some days walking up down and around Snowden next week and hopefully maybe the Lake district if time allows. I have no experience of mountain trekking so hopefully that will be enough for the trip. Not accounting for altitude of course.
I will be driving down to Heathrow from Hull before the scheduled flight. Will have space in the car for one more there or back for anyone travelling from the North of England, let me know. Anbody interested in meeting up before the flight at Heathrow?
Hi everyone, its Valerie here. I am your leader for the trek. I am already in Kathmandu and just returned from trek and read all your posts. Think you are all on the right track - few days in the gym and some walking. Re sleeping bags - the 4 season ones we hire are fine. If anyone thinks they will be cold camping you can hire extra blankets from the lodge the night before. Re money - you will spend approx 500 pounds for food, drinks, showers, charging etc on trek. Pounds fine to bring or there are ATM's near the hotel in Ktm.
Victoria - if you want to go to Bhutan before the trip you need to organise visa etc before you leave UK - if you need any advice on what to do mail me -
if anyone else has any questions re kit etc etc send me a mail. I'll see you all soon in Ktm.
Well i've got my kit bag as well and final joining instructions. I've got a week in the Lakes planned the week before we fly. Hopefully help get my hill legs in.
Sarah, good advice about the laces and loo roll. Would never have thought of that. Been buying various items of kit, fleeces and ltrousers. Buying Xmas presents for me last year was easy!!!
Valerie, how cold does it get in the lodges? My sleeping bag is a down one but i think its a 3-4 season one. I've got a liner that adds a season to it so should be warm enough. Also are there any rules about bringing medication into the country. I've got some antibiotics in case i get struck down badly with the trots. Also Nurofen type stuff?
Really looking forward to this and meeting you all
A3-4 season bag with liner will be fine. all the lodges now have extra blankets in case you need them and get cold. a sigg water bottle or other bottle filled with boiling water in the evinings makes good hot water bottle and then is safe and cool to drink next day as well (and saves plastic mineral water bottles which are a nuisance to the environment).
You can bring any medications into the country. Nurofen fine for headaches if you get them higher up so some are good to carry. I have full first aid kit but some of your own are good. Antibiotics fine to bring in. Ciprofloxacin best for bacterial stomachs. I always carry some. No need to buy expensive medicines in the UK - you can also buy here over the counter.
Hello Valerie - lovely to 'meet' you in advance. I won't be trying to scramble to Bhutan - from what I hear it deserves more than 4 days. So I'm heading to Lumbini. I'll be back to Ktm (and the Royal Singi) mid-afternoon on the 11th, the day everyone back home is heading to the airport!
Two quick questions:
- what's your advice re. water purification? Is there any 'best' solution, and if tablets, are these available in Ktm?
- Is there anything that people forget to/choose not to bring that they then really wish they had? (I'm dithering over packing my binoculars, for example - heavy, but I do love birding, so I'm 99% sure they'll go in!)
Am enjoying the countdown, like Andy, Moose and everyone else! See you all soon...
Hello everyone ! I'm rather envious hearing about your kit bags, as for Canadians the bags aren't provided (guess it's too expensive to mail). I have bought my own duffle style bag, but found it's slightly too small for my poles to fit into. No worries for my international flight, as I plan to put the poles and kit bag inside a regular suitcase (then hopefully leave the suitcase at the hotel while we trek). What I'm wondering about is the Lukla flight - does anyone know if walking poles can be checked (or carried on) in addition to a kit bag ? Thinking I could maybe pack the poles in a poster tube or something similar and perhaps check. Would appreciate any advice. Looking forward to meeting you all, I'm set to arrive in KTM late on the 11th, after overnighting in Hong Kong. So excited - I think I'm driving my friends and family a little crazy as all I seem to talk about is trek related.
Re water - UV pen is best as no after taste. Re tablets - you can get chlorine dioxide now in the UK. Some shops in Ktm still sell iodine tabs - but they have not very good taste. If someone has UV pen borrow that or the odd time higher up you can buy boiled water and use as hot water bottle and then drink that.
Victoria - I see you arrive 7 April and then go off to Lumbini next morning - I will see you at some point probably before you go to Lumbini. Takea rickshaw round the gardens in Lumbini - nice way to see them and the temples there.
Re trekking poles. Poles are not allowed loose in daypack on the internal flight to Lukla - they need to be packed in a kitbag. There should be room in someones kitbag for a spare pair of poles so don't worry packing them up we will fit them in somewhere. When you arrive on 11th late evening there will be a boy in an Exodus fleexe or t-shirt waiting to meet you at the airport and take you to the hotel. He will help you with check in and I will see you on 12th morning around 9.30am.
Looking forward to meeting you, perhaps we can get together later in the day on the 12th .
I am usually around the hotel in the mornings and evenings. The group will arrive mid afternoon onthe 12th and we will probably go for dinner that evening. If I don't see you in the morning on the 12th then lets say we will meet 6pm in the lobby of the hotel that evening and everyone lese should have arrived by then
Looks like there are going to be some fascinating summit-attempt teams at EBC round our time!
- National Geographic team recreating the American summit team of 1963 (start April 16)http://adventure.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/everest/american-expedition-2012/
- Walking with the Wounded try to summit in May, so may be at EBC in April http://walkingwiththewounded.org.uk/the-expeditions/everest-2012/
- The Olympic medal heading for the summit - again, a May attempt but they may be acclimatising at EBC in April http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17493939
Andy - thanks for the advice re. UV pen; another friend recommended them, so that sounds like a good bet (and Valerie agrees!). Thanks for that. Am now wondering what your job is ... microbiologist?!
Valerie - Yes, would be lovely to say 'hello' if you are around at the hotel the evening of the 7th. No worries if we miss each other, though - we'll surely catch up on the 12th.
Susan - Would you like to email me with some details of the tour you're doing on the 12th? Could be a nice intro to Kth. You can get me on victoria.james at itn.co.uk
Been enjoying reading all your comments and tips. Love that everyone is just as excited as I am - although the bits about training schedules are freaking me out a little as I am not sure if I have done enough - 50 miles VictoriaJ - blimey!
Interested to read about the UV pen although on Amazon there were a few comments about malfunctioning so concerned it might not work at altitude - have you found any such problems, Valerie?
Valerie - I wondered if you could advise us about the situation with mosquitos - reading the Exodus trip notes it advises that we should take malaria precautions - would a net be required or is a good lotion/spray with a high deet content sufficient to provide protection together with malaria tablets?
A big hello to all my fellow trekkers; I am really looking forward to the trek, 11 days to go and I'm getting very excited. I haven't done as much training as some of you, 50 miles???? Please tell me that it was over 4 or 5 days.. I have done some gym work, but they frowned at me walking 10 miles on a running machine in my boots and daysack. So I have hit the trails, and got about 3 days of long walks in.
I have a confession, that will no doubt have been found out during the trek; I did this trek with Exodus in March / April 1999. Had my 49th birthday in Lukla. However, we didn't actually get into base camp, we looked at it from about a mile away, and I felt robbed. So, here I am again! I am treating this trek as a new experience, with new friends.
Looking forward to meeting you all at Heathrow on the 11th.
Happy Days, Paul.
.. and welcome to the group. I wonder if there is anyone out there on the trip who hasn't found their way to our message board yet! Your story is a great one (apart from the 'not quite making it' bit..) Fingers crossed you, and all of us, will fulfil that wish this time. I did wonder, when chosing this particular departure, whether the two nights at Base Camp could act a safety net if one needed to take an extra day acclimatising lower down!
You say you had your birthday on your last departure, which was also March/April - does that mean we have another birthday boy on the trip? And as someone who's done this before, do you have any advice and tips from your previous experience?
I have just looked on the booking list on the main website for the trek; at the moment it says that there are 2 places left. Yes, I am another birthday boy - 52 on the 13th. Probably still in Ktm that day, and I have a faint feeling that it is their New Years Day or similar as well. Google says it will be 2069 !! I will be 109 years old. But dont take my word for it, have a look on line. It's a national holiday.
All I can tell you is to make the most of it, or you will be like me and going back. It's a fantastic country and the people are very polite and friendly. You will not be disappointed.
I'm back from the Lakes now. Had great weather and got three days walking in. Legs bit achey but felt quite good.
Nice to see the trip is almost full. Hi, Paul. Nice to see you found your way here. Had a few god tips from the others. How come you weren't able to get to Base Camp in '99?
Valerie, is there anyway of keeping touch with the outside world during the trek? Email or able to send texts? Have family who worry a bit. Be nice to reassure them.
Hi everyone- so great to read all the messages- I am so excited,nervous,scared but reading everything from you guys has really helped... cant done until i get to Heathrow - when the adventure begins...
Moose I wondered about that re keeping in touch..I have looked into a little but not come up with any clear answers except mobile signal should be ok for most of it and vodaphone charge 1.65 per min for a call and 37p per text and things such as internet- well..yikes..they have 3ginternet at basecamp i believe.. Im gonna have to say to hell with the cost as i will need to speak to my kids along the way...
Thats it, it's too late to lose any more weight or get any fitter. Bags sorted, no more kit to buy.
Moose, the reason I didn't get to EBC was through a bit of fatigue, and a group decision that there was no point in going to a "camp-site".....We could see it about a mile in the distance, and that was enough for some; no fault of the guides or the company. It was an option to go further but it didn't happen.
Anyway that was then, this is now and we're going to Everest............woohoo..........
See you all at Heathrow.
Go to www.mountain-skills.com
there is a live blog on there from a guy from down here in the south, who is sat at base camp acclimatising for his summit attempt. It's a good read. And it's cold there today!!!
I have just been out for a week in Phakdinga nd Namche and just got back to Ktm. Malaria tablets you will not need for Ktm and the trek - no mosquitos above Lukla. Unless you are going down to Chitwan after no need for any malaria tabs.
There is phone reception almost everywhere - sometimes not in Dingboche. 3G at base camp. You can use your own phone or buy a local NCell sim card when here. There are internet cafes in Namche, Dingboche and Gorak Shep as well.
This may be a bit late - see you all on 12th
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