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Mt Toubkal Winter Climb

Tripcode: TMW

Countries visited: Morocco

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  • MT TOUBKAL WINTER CLIMB

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    A winter climb close the Sahara. Surreal? 

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    What was the most inspirational moment of your trip?
    Summitting Toubkal was obviously *the* main and satisfying goal.
    What did you think of your group leader?
    We've not had a duff Exodus trip leader yet.  Mohammed was no exception to this - he was all round excellent.
    Do you have any advice for potential travellers?

    Layers, layers, layers (ambient temperature, wind and wind chill can vary enormously).
    Include fleece, windstopper / waterproofs for both top and bottom layers.
    Don't expect "western style" accomodation - staying at/above the stables at the refuge is pretty basic!

    Is there anything else you would like to add?

    There is likely to be plenty of free time in Marrakesh ......
    For a little culinary oasis in the souk, head north west from Djemma El F'na, through the next small square Place Baba Fteuh, exit north west up Rue Mouassine to the junction with Rue Ksour, head up the stairs to the chique terrassed french restuarant that overlooks the souk and serves delicious drinks and bites at very reasonable prices.
    If you want another Marrakesh 'oasis', don't miss the splendid Marjorelle Gardens, 8:30am, before the crowds arrive, then explore their quaint but magnificent Berber museum.

     
  • MT TOUBKAL WINTER CLIMB

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    A snowy challenge in the company of a good group and excellent guides. Fantastic holiday achievable in a week. 

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    What was the most inspirational moment of your trip?

    Looking down a steep snowy slope which we'd just climbed on crampons (my first time).

    The summit of Mt Toubkal.

    What did you think of your group leader?

    Helpful, encouraging, felt very safe. Changed the schedule so that we did Mount Toubkal on the first day - a good call as a storm came in on the evening of the 2nd day and though we walked that day, the ridge to the 2nd peak was too windy for us to get to the summit.

    Do you have any advice for potential travellers?
    Refuge is quite basic but is fine and a good location at the head of the valley. I had down booties which were great in the refuge to keep feet warm, especially when getting up for the loo in the middle of the night. If noise affects you take ear plugs for sleeping at night in the dorm. One of the accommodation had a very smoky lounge (from the stove which provided the only warmth in the room). If you have asthma I'd check with Exodus what the current situation is, as it might cause you problems.
    Is there anything else you would like to add?
    It is a good trip if you want to try out walking on snow. I found it quite challenging - hauling myself out of snow when I broke the crust/soft snow and contouring round a steep slope. However, the guides were there to help and as walks are based from the refuge it is possible to return early.
     
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    This deserves the challenging rating The notes aren't correct you spend three nights at 3200m You ascend 1200m on the first ascent but don't lose 900m as the trip notes sayOther wise they are OK So it is a night in Marrakech, a night at arounf 2000m, 3 nights at 3200m, then in revers a night at 2000m and a night bak in Marrakech I normally do circular walks - however this works given the terrain - one way in one way outLocala told me it looks most beautiful at the end of June early July - well it looked stunning in winter and it was great winter walking   

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    What was the most inspirational moment of your trip?
    seeing the ranges of mountains beyond - I don't know why but I though it was going to be desert - the region is far more mountainous than I had realised
    What did you think of your group leader?

    The team leader (Mohamed) the porters, cook, and abdullah (guide0 were all fantastic - wish i could have them on every trek!

    It is worth brushing up your french for when explanations in english don't quite work 

    Do you have any advice for potential travellers?

    The kit bag is a single trip bag - most failed at one end if the big handle was used - the bag is not ergonomically designed - a ruck sack is better...That said I am going to use the kit bag t store old gear because its shapes means it uses space efficiently in storage

    Use exodus - they use local guides and leaders with an abundance of knowledge - I don't think a question went unanswered...

    Haggle in the souks - don't pay the first thing they ask for - if you wouldn't pay 50% of where they start walk away - your best haggling is unlikleyt to get you much better than 50%

    Don't eat in the square when they are warming up yesterday's left overs

    Beware that everyone that approaches you is likley to want money from you - its not your charm... 

    Is there anything else you would like to add?

    I think the title is misleading - this is a winter ascent - not a winter climb - although there are opportunities to ice climb etc they are not part of the itinary - I know it may be sematics to some - but this is a winter trek with several good ascents - rather than a climb which to me means using arms as much as legs...

     Many people take trekking poles - a long handled ice axe (or two) would be better

     Take your own crampons - those you hire have seen better days.  

     Drink lots of water - it is the only way your body can get rid of the excess carbon dioxide - if your wee isn't like fine champagne then drink more water  

     
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    A really good trip with likeminded people. Excellent local guides who were flexible and gave us an insight into local culture and life in the Atlas Mountains as well as leading us up the mountain. 

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    What was the most inspirational moment of your trip?

    Great group and numerous laughs.

    Being at top of Mount Toubkal, despite feeling effects of altitude!

    Fantastic scenery, particularly in the snow and sun.

    Visit to local Hammam was definitely memorable!

    What did you think of your group leader?

    Both were excellent. Confident, professional and very focussed on our safety and well being.

    Adapted calmly to request to amend itinerary as a result of altitude issues.

    Do you have any advice for potential travellers?

    Refuge and guest house colder than expected - really do need to take warm clothes and down jackets do make a difference ihn the evening.

    Advice given on need for very stiff boots not quite as essential as expected.

    Is there anything else you would like to add?
    THis was a really great first trip with Exodus and we will certainly look at others in the future.
     
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    A weeklong trip that somehow manages to squeeze in a bit of everything into the time you are there.  From the hustle and bustle of Marrakech to the peace and tranquillity of the high Atlas, this trip packs it all in.  A really great trip, definitely one to go on and you don’t have to be that experienced! 

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    What was the most inspirational moment of your trip?

    On the way up to the refuge and the summit of the mountain, you don’t get to see a clear sight of the actual summit.  It’s not till you are quite close that you finally get to see the marker above you.  However, once you are finally there the view is stunning.  The panorama is breath taking, the snow capped flanks of Toubkal give way to the greens and browns of the foot hills and plains that stretch into the distance as far as you can see.  What better reward can you ask for after a morning’s mountain climbing?

    I also found the second day to be just as exciting, as the summit day.  We ascended the summit in clear weather with glorious sunshine, which made the views spectacular.  However the next day was in stark contrast, plenty of snow had fallen over night and was continuing to fall all day.  Visibility was dramatically reduced so we were unable to climb much higher than 3800m, but saying that we still managed to get to near the top of some adjacent peaks.  This truly felt like a winter climb as we made steady progress both up and down the mountain in the falling snow. You couldn’t see much, but was a great day out from the refuge with fun being had by all who went on it.
    What did you think of your group leader?

    The group leader Hassan was really friendly and fun.  He had a great sense of humour that ensured that we had a really good trip.  Mohammed the mountain guide was also great, although his English wasn’t as good as Hassan’s he still made sure that we had a good time up the mountain.  Both were really good and looked out for our safety, overcoming the changing weather and kit with a calm and professional demeanour.  The cook always managed to rustle up fantastic meals that were so welcoming after a day of fun in the snow. 

    Do you have any advice for potential travellers?

    On arrival in Marrakech it is quite warm in the sun, so it’s a good idea to pack a few warm weather clothes.  However, for a good deal of the time up the mountain it will be cold, so pack warm clothes too. 

    As advertised the refuge is quite basic, so don’t expect too many mod cons.  Whilst there is a fire in the main lounge area it can still get quite cold inside, especially with the lack of internal doors on the ground level, so pack some warm clothes to wear around the refuge itself.  I took a down jacket with me that came in handy at various points on the trip. 

    Take a good book, and a pack of cards, that way you can have a peaceful moment to yourself or have a social game of cards with the rest of your group, guides and other residents of the refuge.  Definitely don’t forget to take some ear plugs, you will probably need them.

    When you arrive try to get a bunk bed away from the door and walls and if possible on the lower levels.  I had an upper bunk for the first night and got a bit damp from all of the condensation in the room at night.  Moisture also means that the floors in the refuge can get quite slippery, so take care, especially when going up and down the stairs. 

    There is also a shower, but be warned, there is not an endless supply of hot water and it can run out, leaving you to have a cold one, and that is really quite bracing!  Still, it is possible and well worth it if you want to clean up. 

    There were a couple of plug sockets so you can charge batteries and phones (though you will have to share with everyone else). 

    The refuge can also get quite busy, so despite not seeing may people on the way up to the refuge, it was surprising to see just how many people were staying there.  When it is busy it does mean that it’s not always possible to get a seat in the lounge, but there are other places to sit and have copious cups of sweet tea - not always mint!

    Is there anything else you would like to add?

    This isn’t a technical climb, and slow and steady progress at your pace should see you to the top.  You don’t need to have all of your own kit, as you can hire equipment when you book.  Age should not be a problem, as we were passed by another group that consisted of members all over 60.  There is a possibility that you might suffer from some altitude problems, most of our team made it to the summit with just mild breathlessness.  The guides will go at the pace you need to go and there are plenty of chances to stop and rest if needed.

    Go on! Give it a go.  You'll be glad that you did.

     
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    A good mix of bizarre bazaar (Marrakesh souk) and pristine mountain air (Toubkal).  

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    What was the most inspirational moment of your trip?

    Morocco is a special place. In terms of the distance from UK to culture shock ratio there surely isn't anywhere to beat it. Work your way to the tannery at the heart of the Souk and you'll know what I mean.

     

    I also feel I lucked out with the company - what a great bunch of people to be hiking with. 

    What did you think of your group leader?
    Everything well planned, nice chaps too - thanks again!
    Do you have any advice for potential travellers?
    Be prepared - the mountain refuge is VERY basic. We were there early January which meant constant cold. This is the boot camp portion of the holiday - you'll relish the moment when you can get outside, put your crampons on and get hiking up the slopes (at 7am).
    Is there anything else you would like to add?
    The climbing is not hard or scary so don't be put off by the trip rating. 
     
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    Great trip .7 strangers , 2 Johns 2 Phils and 2 Mohameds as guides made name learning easy. The group varied in fitness from the never hill walked to ultra marathon participants, from mid 20's to 56 (me), but the guides set a pace that we could all manage. The Mountian hut cold in the afternoons after completing the day's walks. All 3 high level walks  exhhilarating including  a great snow gully decent and the trip was supplemented by a Morrocan Hamman (steam room and massage) arranged by the guides at  a very modest cost in Imlil the mountain village at the start/end of the trek.   

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    What was the most inspirational moment of your trip?
    Getting to the summit depite my anxiety re my personal fitness
    What did you think of your group leader?

    Friendly and experienced  both re the mountains and also re his country

    Do you have any advice for potential travellers?
    be reasonably fit, pack warm clothes  for the evenings, brinks some books and playing cards
    Is there anything else you would like to add?
    If the official flights dont tie in with where you live/times  book easy jet and arrange own transfers
     
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