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Walking The Lycian Way

Tripcode: TTL

Countries visited: Turkey

Adult Group Holidays Moderate / Challenging Special Interest Walking & Trekking Culture
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Average Review Rating: 3.1 from 17 reviews.

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  • WALKING THE LYCIAN WAY

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    Written

    There is much to like in the daily walks unfortunately, much of the rest of the experience was below expectations. 

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    What was the most inspirational moment of your trip?
    Summiting, albeit a minor mountain and without having to make the downward return, was still the best bit!
    What did you think of your group leader?

    Most of the 'poor' experience was caused by decisions made by the guide. He seemed unable to pace the day, steaming off on day 1 at 11m/min vertical ascent. Ironically, previous treks I have taken always seemed to be too slow. This pace was, in fact, ok by me and at least one other of the party - there were only five of us. But, the pace wasn't maintained and a lot of the extra walk-time seemed as if it was because of the guide smoke breaks.

    It is not pleasant to have smoking on a trek, especially by the guide.

    The initial pace prevented two of the party taking the summit walk because of predicted bad weather, walk length and difficulty. None of these happened - it was a truly beautiful day with minimal cloud up top (and a gondola and cafe if it wasn't!), the walk was only five hours and of only reasonable difficulty, certainly less difficult than day 1.

    On the last day, we got no advice about what we might see in Antalya, given the flight time, there was actually time to do quite a lot if it was planned. No mention was made of the beautiful, gigantic waterfall cascading into the sea near to or hotel, everyone did find it but none-the-less, we should have been told.

    Also, we were picked up and dropped at the airport with more than 3 hours to spare - much, much too early since we stayed near to the airport and traffic couldn't seriously be an issue. We arrived before the check-ins even opened, time wasted we could have used in the city as well as our bags being last off the plane at Gatwick, probably causing one of our party to miss his onward flight.

    Do you have any advice for potential travellers?

    The camping day didn't happen (the weather was bad that day and stayed that way) - I wish, along with the others that I hadn't taken the mat and the sleeping bag (both new). The tour company had mats, it is more logical for them to lend you one for a small fee than for everyone to fill their kit bag with one.

    The rain, which apparently, should have been worse at that time of year requires that you use a special purpose waterproof 'phone bag, like an Overboard bag rather than a 'waterproof' coat pocket or plastic bag or rucksack pocket.

    There is wifi at many of the places along the way, use it to get independant weather forceasts so you have an idea at least, the guide kept saying it would rain despite the evidence (and forecasts I looked at) to the contrary. He even cancelled our summit trek because of the 'risk' of thunderstorms, all news to the many people we met on the route (which we obviously did do, after a serious argument by me) and, as said before, which did not even come close to happening.

    Is there anything else you would like to add?

    This was a disappionting trip overall, despite most of the walks being good, one day was all on road tracks, not at all enjoyable. Turkey does not seem to want to make visitors welcome, people drink alcohol (Turkish people that is) but no (recognisable) meat was available at the very poor breakfasts. Also, there was very often, no 'English' tea at breakfast either. Both Turkish Tea and Coffee are a seriously aquired taste few would enjoy so thi smade breakfasts unenjoyable.

    Carrying separate 'picnic' items up mountains was not sensible either, a packed lunch of some kind would have been much more practical, and lighter for some of us. The bread was very nice however.

    If you are interested in using the last day better, check out morning tours perhaps with a drop-off at the airport rather than using the local guide.

     The 'beach' day was more enjoyable for taking a snorkel if you like snorkelling, they sell them in the village but it saves 10 pounds if you have your own. Some kind of water-shoes are a must though, stones are everywhere.

    Exodus Response

    Exodus focus heavily on the quality of our trips. As such we are working with our local partners to make improvements to this trip for next year, including small changes to the itinerary and further support for our local guides to ensure they are best prepared to deliver a high quality trip.
     
  • WALKING THE LYCIAN WAY

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    Written

    Any potential traveller on this trip needs to be aware that the terrain may be harsher than other parts of europe and training may be necessary to gain full enjoyment of this trip;experience may be useful! 

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    What was the most inspirational moment of your trip?
    How wonderful Turkey is!
    What did you think of your group leader?

    Are leader was a wonderful person and will improve as a trekleader with experience.

    Do you have any advice for potential travellers?
    Train hard, help those who need it(As I was fortunate to find on my trek) and be tolerant and understanding:this will add to your enjoyment!
    Is there anything else you would like to add?
    Thank you Exodus! I had the time of my life!
     
  • THE ULTIMATE LYCIAN WAY

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    it is worth remembering that this holiday can be fairly tough in view of the hot weather - around 28c even in early October. Fortunately there are a lot of pine forests which provide some shade from the sun. 

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    What was the most inspirational moment of your trip?
    Reaching the summit of Mt. Olympos, seeing the Eternal Flame and being rewarded by wonderful views of the coast.
    What did you think of your group leader?
    He was good fun and walked at a sensible pace with plenty of stops for water. He was very relaxed.
    Do you have any advice for potential travellers?
    Take a warm sleeping bag for the camping night + a headtorch and take shorts and light tops for the days.
     
  • THE ULTIMATE LYCIAN WAY

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    I chose this holiday for a bit of activity, warm weather and good scenery ... and that's exactly what I got. 

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    What was the most inspirational moment of your trip?
    Mount Olympos days was probably the best - starting in the cool of the early morning, seeing the sunrise on the way up, experiencing the views and reaching the summit of Olympos for a nice cup of tea at the cable car station was great.
    What did you think of your group leader?
    Very good at first aid! Some of group incurred minor injuries and he treated them calmly and competently. His briefings for the next day weren't always the clearest, but not always knowing what to expect can be interesting.
    Do you have any advice for potential travellers?
    If you walk fast and prefer not to stop too often, you may be frustrated if the group has a wide range of walking speed & stamina, as our leader made us keep together by slowing down & stopping to allow others to catch up. I suppose this may be for health and safety reasons or not getting lost, but it was a bit frustrating at times.
     
  • THE ULTIMATE LYCIAN WAY

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    I and many people in my group - so It was not an uncommon expectation - had thought this holiday would be more coastal and give view most days of the coastline, but it did not until the last day of walking. (Although we could see the coast through the haze from the top of Olympus.)   

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    What was the most inspirational moment of your trip?
    I was filled with admiration for the way Osgur dealt with a casualty amongst us.  Unflappable and completely on the case.  I expect most people will say it was the ascent of Olympus.  This would have been better from my perspective if we'd taken a different route down rather than the same route or used the cable car that  would have been stunning.
    What did you think of your group leader?

    Very good in some ways (see above) friendly and spoke good English.  He should have given a proper briefing each evening about what to expect the next day. He did not explain the lack of facilities at the campsite or how to dispose of toilet waste.  Osgur could have managed the disparate speeds in the group better by not being at the front the whole time.  If those of us at the rear of the group had needed his skills at some point en route we'd no way of contacting him as he was out of shouting range (although perhaps contactable by mobile?)  

    Do you have any advice for potential travellers?

    You  need to be aware that because of the lengths of the walks each day this can become a route march and not much time is available to look at the scenery - unless the whole group is equally speedy I suppose.  One of our group did ask for an earlier start one day and this was gracefully accommodated and worked well. 

    BE REALLY BE SURE OF YOUR FITNESS AND IF AT ALL IN DOUBT PICK ANOTHER HOLIDAY.

    Is there anything else you would like to add?
    A dissapointment due to lack of coastal views and being less fit and speedy than was required.
     
  • THE ULTIMATE LYCIAN WAY

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    Overall this was a great trip with fantastic scenery and walking in an interesting part of Turkey - the walking was rugged and sticks are really an essential bit of kit.   On the free day 10 of us took a boat along the coast and this was one of the highlights of the week. 

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    What was the most inspirational moment of your trip?
    Getting to the top of mount Olympus, sitting aorund the camp fire the night before, watching the sun come up over the ridge before setting off.   Also reaching the view of the lighthouse on the final days walking as the views down to the coeast were stunning.   And the Turkish bath at the end of the trip in Antalya followed by a lunch at a restaurant overlooking the harbour.    
    What did you think of your group leader?
    Probably the worst leader I have had on my many exodus trips - he was innattentive and uncommunicative, shared no local or historical information and although was quite pleasant at times on a one-to-one basis showed no interest in us as a group.   Trek briefings were so minimal that we had no idea of what was to come the next day.   Fortunately it was a very good group so we were able to cope with this but had the group dynamics been difficult this would have been more problematic.
    Do you have any advice for potential travellers?

    Take a water bladder as it was extremely hot - it was good to be able to drink easily on the go.   I had wonderful food as a vegetarian.   The food at the pension we stayed at in Cirali for 2 nights was fantastic.   chocolate bars are provided as snacks but my cereal bars were also very welcome.  

     
  • THE ULTIMATE LYCIAN WAY

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    tour giuide not good food and accomodation poor 

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    What was the most inspirational moment of your trip?

    the walks and m,ountainm vbiuews were  aMAZING and we ernmjoyed the caming night despitce hjearing wolves hoiwling#

    the guide pushed us too hartd  p[aRTICULARLYOMN TYHE FIRST DAY AS T H E CONDITIONS W ERE VERY HOT and we had an houes drive to the evcening meal on the first nigfht after a long trreavedlling day also he gbotr losr finding t he holtel on the last night in Antalya

    What did you think of your group leader?
    very poor
    Do you have any advice for potential travellers?
    be prepared to czarry pl;enty of botled water and use poles and good stgout walking boots

    Exodus Response

    Weather conditions can vary on this trip depending on the time of year visited. The leader will always do his best to ensure the group stays together even when there are disparate abilities within the group.


     
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