Kilimanjaro Trip August 22nd


I am Stuart. My friend, Malcolm, and myself ahve just booked Kilimnajaro for the 21st August. 

I am really excited (and a little bit nervous) about it!


 I  Just wondered if anyone else had booked this trip.





Hi Stuart,

My friend, Anita, and myself are booked on that trip. Equally as excited and nervous! I don't know if anyone else is booked on it or how full it is.



Hello all.  2 more booked on this trip...we're at least 7 now as in December I was told there was only 1 booked.

I did the Inca Trail a couple of years back and was a bit underprepared with walking day in day out so am planning on going to Snowdon/Peak District at some point when the weather warms up a bit for a bit of training. What's everyone's training regime likely to consist of? 


Hi all. Anita here (Kirstens friend). I'm looking at some new boots to buy for the trek (Berghaus explorer trek) but don't know whether to go one or two sizes bigger than my usual size. Any ideas?

How's the training going? Kirsten and I are avid runners, so are relatively fit, however we need to seriously buckle down and start doing some proper hill climbs. Hoping to make some trips to wales and possibly the Peak District also. Looking forward to meeting you all.


Take it easy,

Neets ;-) 

Hi everyone,

Anita and I are getting a little inquisitive and wondering where you all live and how your prep is going for the trek? We are starting to get pretty excited now!

We live in Exeter, Devon and have done a few walks on the South West Coast path this week. Although I wasn't feeling the love for it in the wind and rain today!! But it's all good practice and hopefully Spring will arrive soon!


Malcolm and myself are based up in Aberdeen, I am guessing you guys are all down south?


I havent done any training yet!!! I am quite a keen runner too and hoping that this will help, but like you I know I should be doing some walking / climbing!


Are you guys all hiring equipmnt (as opposed to buying it)? I have bought boots and a jacket but havent got round to anything else yet.






I just looked and I cant see this trip anymore so I guess the trip is full?

Hi Stuart,

We are in the South, In Devon, a bit of a way from Aberdeen!

We are hiring sleeping bags and sleeping mats but apart from that I have got my own kit or borrowing a few things as well. I am also a runner but have started to walk at weekends, although not the distance/time that we will be doing for Kili.




Starting to get real now. :) Stuart has sent me on the link to the forum page as I had misplaced it. Was watching a few of the video clips last night and saw the ceremony farewell song they sing.

Anita - did you get your boots ok? Sounds like you two have already been ok walking so believe you have that all sorted. :)

Andrew - The Inca trail is another one I would really like to see along with EBC.... Looking forward to hearing about it in the group talks, after our day’s walk up Kili.

From what I have heard the day of reaching the summit and/or the day before that, are the hardest and mostly due to the altitude but those people had taken the trips that did it in less days, so I am happy that we are on the longer Lemosho route. :)  All down to Stuart’s time spent researching when it counted. :)



"All down to Stuart’s time spent researching when it counted. :)"


Are you trying to say I should have been working :)


No, but I am the one with the day off today! ;)

Hi there,

My name is Djamila, and I'll be joining the trek with a friend. Am so looking forward to it, haven't done anything like this before :-/.

Is anyone going to Zanzibar afterwards?

Cheers, Djamila


Myself and Malcolm aren't going on to Zanzibar.

Anita and I aren't going to Zanzibar.
Has anyone got their visa already or are you getting them at the airport?

How is everyone's training going?



I havent got my Visa yet and intended to get it at the Airport. Have you heard of any reason not to do this or is there an advantae to getting it before departure?

Ive been out for a few walks with Malcolm now in preperation. We are trying to do a shorter walk one evening through the week and a longer walk at the weekend. I am hoping this will be enough.

I havent had any blisters in my new boots yet so I am quite chuffed with that :)

I am trying to decide which kit to buy vs rent just now. I have bought a Rab Summit jacket but I am not sure whether to spend the money on a sleeping bag or rent it. I am jsut not sure I will use it again!

Has everyone else got all their kit sorted?


Cheers, Stuart.


I have emailed Exodus and they say to get the Visa at the airport, I do know someone who did the trek last year and they got theirs in advance.

Good news about your boots, obviously a good buy! I am walking twice a week, same as you by the sounds of it, but running a couple of times as well.  How far are you going on your long walks?

 We are renting sleeping bags and ground mats, apart from that I have got everything now apart from maybe a new pair of socks. Just working my way through the injections!



Well the bank balance is a lot lighter today but I guess that we are definitely going now!


Kirsten, We seam to be managing about 14km on a Thursday night and about 20km on a Saturday. I have to be honest and say that while the walking is fine I dont think I would ever do it for a regular weekly excercise. It is just so time consuming compared to running :)

I watched the Comic Relief Kili challenge again last night just to see if I could pick up any hints on clothes, temperatures etc. I notice they didnt wear their heavy gear until right at the top (i.e. last day) but I dont know how edited that was.

I also noticed that Chris Moyles (a smoker) didnt have  a problem with altitude fitness. I have also heard so many times that the fitest people often struggle with the oxygen depletion.

I think that I should maybe sit on the couch for the next 8 weeks and do no more training :).


I am a bit concerned about the amount of kit that I plan to take vs weight limit but I guess it will be fine on the day.Has anyone else weight any of their gear?








Hi Stuart,

 I am probably doing about the same distances walking as you. You are right though, it does take a lot of time!

I havent seen the comic relief programme, is it worth watching? I have borrowed 'Kilimanjaro - The trekking guide to Africas highest mountain' by Henry Stedman. Its really good and has details of each days walk.

I didnt realise that about altitude sickness, darn it! I thought being as fit as possible would be helpful, pie & chips from now on in it is then!lol!

 I havent weighed any luggage yet but probably should do. It is suggested that we wear a complete set of what we need for the trek on the flight over, in case your luggage gets lost.

 2 months on Friday!




 I must admit I am not really preparing. Am going to the gym for some cardio training (besides the normal classes), but else I haven't done anything. We went for a long walk in Richmond Park and my new hiking boots did well, no blisters ;-)

We are renting sleeping bags and sleeping matts. That's all. For the rest I am hoping dressing in layers will do ;-)

I haven't weighted my luggage yet, first I need to buy the snacks etc that will keep me going - he he. Will definitely be at the limit...

Are you doing a national park tour before the trek begins? I understood one can book it in Arousha... Am thinking about doing that.

The countdown is on :D

Cheers, Djamila




Sounds like everyone is pretty fit already with all this mention of running, fitness classes and gym etc! My practice walks have been slipping this past month due to work etc so need to get back on track, so I can keep up with all of you. :) Fingers crossed my not smoking does not increase my chances of the altitude sickness. :)


I like the tip of carrying (or wearing) on the plane a set of trek clothes in case of missing luggage. The travel clinic (for the yellow fever injection also recommended a double set of any medication, 1 set in the hand luggage, for the same reason.


What snacks are you thinking of taking and how much? Hopefully the meals will be big enough that a snack would be all that it is, or do you know more?


Have not been thinking about any additional tours (like the national park tour) and maybe should be. Have really just been focussing on the trek but should make the most of the experience like you are.


Thanks and see you all soon.



Hi Malcolm,

 Don't worry - I should do more practicing but to be honest I always find something more exciting to do. ;-) Re snacks I was more thinking of little treats/ sweets to keep me going - he he. From what I have heard the meals there are plentyful and delicious!

Good tip about the double set of medication, will keep that in mind. Also, one of my friends recommended to pack everything in those vacuum plastic bags. It makes space in your bag and keeps your stuff dry in case it's raining etc...

I checked the itinerary the other day if we had any time for this day trip to the national park, but it seems pretty busy. I'll speak to the team again and check. But I am going to Zanzibar afterwards as well, so it wouldn't be too bad if I couldn't do that.

See you there soon.

Cheers, Djamila


It sounds like the meals are substantial and they provide snacks as well I think. I am planning to take my own as well though just in case and so I know I like them!

I have bought some Trek protein bars in bulk from their website for an afternoon snack each day. They are what I have been eating when I have been doing m training walks. They are higher in protein than normal cereal bars/flapjacks and recommended for walking. They of flapjacks and the protein bars, I tried both but think the protein bars are better for their content and that they don't melt which one of the others did when I was walking last weekend!

I'm not doing any additional excursions due to time, money and that I go back to work the day after we fly home! That's going to be a shock to the system!



Hi,Thanks for the reassurances. :) It is good to hear that the food is tasty and plentiful. I was thinking that maybe half of my weight allowance would need to be snacks. ;) I must see if I can find the protein bars on their website and they sound good to have.Vacuum bags make sense too instead of buying dry bags.I have maybe been thinking about this for too long as the list of things I would like to take is far too long. :) Now trying to cut it back to a more realistic list of what is needed not nice to have..... I have weighed a few of the items and it quickly adds up. Looks like I might be wearing my boots on the plane to save having to carry them. :)I am back to work straight away as well. :(I was hearing from a friend, that did the walk about 5 yrs ago (not Exodus), and he said the summit day’s downhill bit was like going down a dried river bed and was a bit tricky and the toughest section/day for him. The poles were helpful to him on the way down but he did not use them much on the way up.Have put off buying some of the little items, like water purification, but I really need to get my act together now and get everything together.Work and life has been getting in the way of training lately and I really must get back in to it and go out and do a walk this weekend! Training time is running out.  ;) Unlike Stuart I do not do 12 fitness classes and 60km a week. :)

Can't quite believe it is one month today that we fly out!

Let me know if you need a link to their website or aren't sure which bars I am talking about. I am planning on starting to lift things out over the next week or so to check what I have/haven't got. And then weigh it all!

I used poles on my walk today.....they were a pain in the arse to be honest! I ended up just carrying them most of the time then gave up half way and attached them to my rucksack. I guess I will take them out there but am not completely sure. Is anyone else taking poles?

It was a bit too hot walking today and I left fairly early. I was thinking about kit and only taking one of each length of layer, but after how hot I got today I'm not sure the clothes would last a week! But I'm sure how much I smell will be the least of my worries!!lol!

Marta said we don't need purification tablets as the porters boil all the water. I got through 2&1/2 litres over 8miles today and still had a few miles to go but I think that was just because it was so hot. I haven't drunk that much up until now.


Sorry, it's baby wipes 3 for 3 GBP ;-)


We are on the 20.00 to Nairobi.

Its going to be a long day or so of travel!



It's just me now as my friend isn't doing it anymore. I am on the 20.00 from Heathrow.

I also have bought mainly new kit, and i think my clothes would be a bit small for the porters! I am trying to find some old kit from my Dad and friends to take out if I have any room!

How much is everyone taking for the tips? I haven't quite worked it out yet.



I'm aiming for the $175-200pp mark as per the trip notes.  Without them we'll have no chance of making it to the top so providing they're as good as everyone says, that's my aim.  You'll also need crips US$ for the VISA so don't take crumbled/written bills.  Make sure they're crisp!

Shame you're friends not going anymore but it should be a good group dynamic hopefully so don't worry about that.  No idea about age or demographics of anyone so it'll be interesting when we all get out there.  


Re tips for the porters etc. I'm with Andrew, will calculate with the same amount...

Kirsten, that's a shame that your friend cancelled... But I'm sure you will not be the only one travelling "on your own", and it won't make a difference in the group anyway.

It will indeed be interesting to see the group then - can't wait. And now it's August already, it came around so quickly!


Trust the ladies to manage to twist the trip to be about shoes! ;)

I wish I got tips, on top of my earnings, of approx 20 to 25 percent of my nations average annual wage every week or 2, even if it was split between 3 or 4. ;)

Kirsten - thanks for the trek bar link.

Andrew - not sure how you managed 7kg for the Inca Trail! Do you just wear the same set of clothes for the whole trip? Sounds like you are a seasoned pro at this type of thing. ;)

I would hate to break the stereotype, even if we are climbing a mountain! Maybe I should admit at this point that a few items of my kit are pink! it was just the way the cookie crumbled.....honest! Incidentally I got a pair of the boots from Shoe Zone for £10, although have now thought that my feet will be sweltering for the first few evenings but hey ho!!

7kg is pretty much what my day pack weighed when I went for a walk today, although that was with 3 litres of water. I weighed it just out of curiosity. That is impressive for a whole trek!

I decided that today was my last long walk, my legs are tired now so it's time to rest up. Wonder how we will all be feeling 2 weeks today!


PINK! How could you. Well if there is low cloud don’t be surprised if we have you at the front to light the path. ;)

In my defence a couple of them were under armour in TK Maxx so an absolute bargain & that was the only colour they had! The jacket & excuse, I just like pink!

How many pairs of socks is everyone taking?


2 fires at Airports today both of which are part of Myself and Malcolms itinerary! Nairobi and Aberdeen.

Hopefully being 2 weeks out the Nairobi shouldnt affect any of us. 



BTW my glasses are pink too.


Pink glasses? Very stylish! And as we are just talking about it, my fleece jumper is pink too ;-)

Re socks: I have one pair of thin liner socks. Will also take two pairs of hiking socks and one pair of my skiing socks...

Yes, read about the fire. I hope everything is up and running again in two weeks, otherwise we might get a new flight schedule ;-) Guess we are all flying via Nairobi...

I bought enery and protein bars at the weekend, they alone weigh a bit more than 1kg! Eek! I don't dare yet to put everything on one pile to see how much stuff I have, will try to avoid this shock as long as I can...

Have you received your e-tickets yet? It says we should receive it 2-3 weeks before the trip...

Just looked in the net about the fire, hopefully everything will be back to normal by then, although with no arrivals lounge by the sounds of it.

Do you fly to London from Aberdeen and then on the same flight as some of us?

I got the email from Exodus on Monday with all the final info and flight number etc.

I started to lift my kit out yesterday but haven't weighed it yet, a bit worried about doing do!!


Yes we fly down from Aberdeen about 3 oclock.

Its normally just over an hour.


I still have things to buy - I really need to get my final order in.


My back pack arrived today along with a hat and gloves that I ordered. The hat is not pink but judging by the reaction of others it would get less looks if it was :)




Just called Exodus and now I also have received my final instructions.

I think I have everything now, except from plasters - that's still on my shopping list. It was a bit frustrating, as my list got longer and longer. But now all should be sorted.

Btw: international flights from/to Nairobi airport are operating again. Phew ;-)


Good morning,

It's my last day in the office today, only 5 more sleeps. I'm excited and nervous. If we don't "speak" again before you all have a safe trip, see you at Kili Airport! Looking forward to it! :-)


Enjoy your last day at work Djamila!

I look forward tomeeting you all at the airport / transfer / meeting etc. and I am also really lookign forward toi getting started on the trek.

That said, has anyone looked at the hotel / cottages for the night before? I think that it looks really nice. 

See you soon.







I didn't even think about that... Just had a look now and it looks lovely. What a nice start and end to the trip. Good to know we can jump in a pool when we get back - he he.

Holidays are almost started for your then Djamila! Enjoy the start of your trip & look forward to seeing you in Africa!

Likewise, I can't wait to get started now!

Holidays are almost started for your then Djamila! Enjoy the start of your trip & look forward to seeing you in Africa!

Likewise, I can't wait to get started now!

Is anyone taking a spare camera battery? I can't decide whether to although have probably left it a bit late now to try to find one!


Yes I am, but the batteries in my camera are shockingly poor. About an hour of use each at the most.


I did buy a solar charger but its not a lot of use.


The only other batteries I am taking are for the head torch. 2 spare sets.

I can't seem to find my camera battery anywhere apart from possibly somewhere on,ins and now with next day delivery is going to cost about £17! Which seems a lot but then if course I should have organised it sooner!
I've just been looking at a Freeloader charger in the Maplin website but I don't really understand ow it works and there aren't any in stock in the South West anywhere anyway!


Luckily my camera only needs normal AA batteries, and I am taking 20 of those... I also take a portable charger (not solar), so maybe you could charge it up there? My friend is taking his solar charger as well.


Sorry, me again...

Kirsten: what kind of charger do you need? There is a Maplin near Liverpool St (where I work), I could pop in there and check for you.

I practice packed my bag at the start of the week and it was 10kg, with just a few things not in there so I'm hoping I will be ok! Are you taking other shoes for around the camp in the evening or just the boots? My only concern is that if it rains the boots will get soaked! Not that I intend bringing them home!

I only just started looking at the chargers and don't really understand how they work! So not sure what I would need! I think it was a 'Freeloader'. I'm not very good with technical stuff.....unless its pink!lol!

Blindly! What a brain ache! I found a battery on Amazon and have ordered it with Express delivery. The estimated delivery is 20-22 August so fingers crossed it arrives.........or I could be relying in everyone else's photos!

Djamila - thanks for offering to go shopping for me! I did check and Maplin don't do the one I need, nowhere seems to, I must have bought my camera in the Dark Ages or something!! Enjoy the first leg of your trip, see you next week :-)

I just checked the weather for Arusha.......28 degrees and, hot, hot!!


Kirsten, 10kg. Well done, mine is close to 15kg. Wanted to pack light but just couldnt get it. Even took out most of the oatmeal bars. Did you pack more than just 1 pair of socks? ;) Did your packing include your down jacket, main jacket, sleeping mat and sleeping bag?

Djamila, I believe you said the mat did not have to go in the exodus bag. I got an email from Exodus telling me I had to pack everything including the sleeping mat into my exodus bag. Maybe it is different because I am not hiring anything.


2 more days of work to go and then offskie! See you all soon.

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